C: GIVEAWAY!! Our First Ever! Join the Fun!
As promised in my last post, this is your chance to WIN!! If you read the previous post, you will see that I am intrigued by by-gone etiquette rules. I have two copies of this book, one dating from 1945 (for which you can all vie) and one from 1950. The questions I am asking below are from the 1950 book because I had not yet dug the other one out when I starting composing this one.
The topics we cover in this quiz seem foreign to me, and we think they will to most of you, since the classes are so mixed up these days. Emily, herself, notes this trend. You can almost hear her sniff as she says in her introduction on Page xii:
And, I must say, V and I probably hail from the "not-smart" side of the tracks...sigh.
Okay, here are the rules (such as they are):
1. This is a self-graded test. We really don't care about your "score," what we want are your comments!! Go through the questions and see if you know the answers. Score yourself.
2. Go to the "comments" section, give us your "score." (If it's perfect, we will suspect that you have come to us from a time warp...and probably through a few social classes, if you're reading our blog).
3. In your comments, let us know what you thought interesting, what you got right and why (please, tell us that one), or some antecdote about your own etiquette (we especially love to hear about others' faux pas!)
4. Ten days from now (which would be September 2, Wednesday, we will choose a winner to be announced on Thursday, September 3. This will be while V and I are in the throes of etiquette, preparing for her son's wedding on the 5th.
5. Method of choosing a winner: Everyone's name goes into the squirrel cage, to be drawn by the "G People" (Grandparents: My mother and mother-in-law). BUT you can get extra chances! Help us build our readership and share the opportunity here by posting about our contest (let us know, please) for two extra chances. New followers get two extra, as well. The "G-People" will also award one extra point for each of the five comments they deem worthy (such as the ones that make them giggle).
V and I love this contest thing and (just a hint for the future), we've snagged and put away some neat stuff (the rest of it is new, mind you) for our future contests! The chance to build readership aside, we love the sharing idea!
So, here goes. Answers follow, below:
Now, in your head, hear the Jeopardy "thinking theme." I tried to insert the music, but did not have time to figure it out...too advanced for me.
:
Okay, get your red pencils out and score yourselves. Here are the answers:
1. A gentleman lifts or removes his hat when he greets someone with whom he is already acquainted. If it is a stranger, he "tips" his hat.
2. You ALWAYS say "How do you do?" in response to an introduction. Nothing else is acceptable. Emily says that to reply "Pleased to meet you" is the "tabu of all tabus" (her words).
By the way, "I beg your pardon" is also the ONLY acceptable; never, ever say "Pardon me," unless, of course, it is in French, in which case it is perfectly acceptable.
3. Dances are geared toward one age group, while balls include people of all ages and are, of course, more elaborate. Balls ALWAYS sport TWO orchestras (you can get by with one for a "dance") and a supper which must begin at 1 a.m. and end by 3 a.m.
Balls also include announcing at the door, ALWAYS a red carpet, and a valet/chauffeur to open the door of the cars as they pull up. There are many, many more differences, but you get the idea just in case you need to decide whether to throw a ball or a dance.
4. Until 6 p.m. the Butler wears a suit of black or very dark blue. After 6, he wears a dress suit differing from his employer in a few details only: no braid on trousers; the silk on his lapels is, of course, narrower; and he wears a black waistcoat (never use that vulgar term, "vest") and white lawn tie. A gentleman, of course, always wears a white waistcoat with white tie or white waistcoat and black tie with dinner coat, but NEVER the reverse. (By the way, only a "vulgarian" allows a butler with a mustache.).
5. A PPC is a visiting-card on which the initials PPC (the French: pour prendre conge—to take leave) are written in ink in the lower left corner. This is mailed and merely means that you are leaving town and is a sort of “good-bye.” No other message is needed. It was, at Emily’s writing, becoming acceptable to replace the PPC (French) with the English version initials of T.s.g.h. which means “To say good-by).
I had to restrain myself to keep this from getting pages long. I love this stuff. Can't wait to get your take on these and hear your own stories or interesting words on etiquette! BE SURE WE HAVE A WAY TO REACH YOU SO THAT WE CAN SHIP YOUR VERY OWN COPY IF YOU WIN!! (and yes, dear international readers, we WILL ship to you!) -C
The topics we cover in this quiz seem foreign to me, and we think they will to most of you, since the classes are so mixed up these days. Emily, herself, notes this trend. You can almost hear her sniff as she says in her introduction on Page xii:
The smart and the near-smart...are all mixed up together. The walls that used to enclose the world that was fashionable are all down. Even the cartracks that divided cities into smart and not-smart sections are torn up.
And, I must say, V and I probably hail from the "not-smart" side of the tracks...sigh.
Okay, here are the rules (such as they are):
1. This is a self-graded test. We really don't care about your "score," what we want are your comments!! Go through the questions and see if you know the answers. Score yourself.
2. Go to the "comments" section, give us your "score." (If it's perfect, we will suspect that you have come to us from a time warp...and probably through a few social classes, if you're reading our blog).
3. In your comments, let us know what you thought interesting, what you got right and why (please, tell us that one), or some antecdote about your own etiquette (we especially love to hear about others' faux pas!)
4. Ten days from now (which would be September 2, Wednesday, we will choose a winner to be announced on Thursday, September 3. This will be while V and I are in the throes of etiquette, preparing for her son's wedding on the 5th.
5. Method of choosing a winner: Everyone's name goes into the squirrel cage, to be drawn by the "G People" (Grandparents: My mother and mother-in-law). BUT you can get extra chances! Help us build our readership and share the opportunity here by posting about our contest (let us know, please) for two extra chances. New followers get two extra, as well. The "G-People" will also award one extra point for each of the five comments they deem worthy (such as the ones that make them giggle).
V and I love this contest thing and (just a hint for the future), we've snagged and put away some neat stuff (the rest of it is new, mind you) for our future contests! The chance to build readership aside, we love the sharing idea!
So, here goes. Answers follow, below:
1. What is the proper custom for a man wearing a hat when he is introduced to or greets another person?
2. What verbal response do you give when you are introduced to a new person?
3. What are the differences between "balls" and "dances?"
4. What is the difference between the butler's dress and the gentleman's dress after 6 p.m.?
5. What is a P.P.C. card?
Now, in your head, hear the Jeopardy "thinking theme." I tried to insert the music, but did not have time to figure it out...too advanced for me.
:
Okay, get your red pencils out and score yourselves. Here are the answers:
1. A gentleman lifts or removes his hat when he greets someone with whom he is already acquainted. If it is a stranger, he "tips" his hat.
2. You ALWAYS say "How do you do?" in response to an introduction. Nothing else is acceptable. Emily says that to reply "Pleased to meet you" is the "tabu of all tabus" (her words).
By the way, "I beg your pardon" is also the ONLY acceptable; never, ever say "Pardon me," unless, of course, it is in French, in which case it is perfectly acceptable.
3. Dances are geared toward one age group, while balls include people of all ages and are, of course, more elaborate. Balls ALWAYS sport TWO orchestras (you can get by with one for a "dance") and a supper which must begin at 1 a.m. and end by 3 a.m.
Balls also include announcing at the door, ALWAYS a red carpet, and a valet/chauffeur to open the door of the cars as they pull up. There are many, many more differences, but you get the idea just in case you need to decide whether to throw a ball or a dance.
4. Until 6 p.m. the Butler wears a suit of black or very dark blue. After 6, he wears a dress suit differing from his employer in a few details only: no braid on trousers; the silk on his lapels is, of course, narrower; and he wears a black waistcoat (never use that vulgar term, "vest") and white lawn tie. A gentleman, of course, always wears a white waistcoat with white tie or white waistcoat and black tie with dinner coat, but NEVER the reverse. (By the way, only a "vulgarian" allows a butler with a mustache.).
5. A PPC is a visiting-card on which the initials PPC (the French: pour prendre conge—to take leave) are written in ink in the lower left corner. This is mailed and merely means that you are leaving town and is a sort of “good-bye.” No other message is needed. It was, at Emily’s writing, becoming acceptable to replace the PPC (French) with the English version initials of T.s.g.h. which means “To say good-by).
I had to restrain myself to keep this from getting pages long. I love this stuff. Can't wait to get your take on these and hear your own stories or interesting words on etiquette! BE SURE WE HAVE A WAY TO REACH YOU SO THAT WE CAN SHIP YOUR VERY OWN COPY IF YOU WIN!! (and yes, dear international readers, we WILL ship to you!) -C
Comments
Regarding your comment. "Nourishing Traditions" does not recommend a vegetarian diet, they fall into the politically correct category of unhealthy diets; according to Sally Fallon. I LOVED this book. It makes perfect sense to me. I think she is on the right track.
My dad wore a hat, and even though he was not a toff, he observed hat etiquette. How I miss the days when ladies and gentlemen wore hats and dressed nicely to go to church, shopping, out to dinner, etc... My mother rued the advent of casual (sloppy) dress. She said that when people dress nicely that they behave better. And I have noticed that when I'm dress up, I feel differently; more lady-like.
A few years ago I planned an old-fashioned wedding shower/afternoon tea. I compiled 1900 era etiquette and asked one of the older ladies in our church to read it aloud to the group. Some things were good common sense; others were mystifying. A friend sang an old romantic ballad, my husband played the piano. There were flowers and candles on the tables, delicate food and everyone dressed up. My husband played vintage love songs on the piano. It was a lovely old fashioned party. Ah.....
1)Cowboy pushes ten-gallon hat back and swaps his face with his red bandana.
2) Says "Howdy Pardner. Whar you from?"
3)Men have "balls" and girls have "dances."
4)They both wear the same, white T shirt and jeans.
5)Perfectly Pecked (you know pecs.
Cowboy.
Will that do for a chance at the book? Looks like I might need it. Didn't even get close.
QMM
Best Wishes to the new couple! -Sheep M
I chose the taboo answer for #2. "Please to make your acquaintance" just doesn't cut it I guess.
I knew about the balls because the Farmer and I attended one once upon a time. We're were announced at the entrance and everything! It was probably not proper etiquette for me to stand at the bar and order my own drink. I struck up a conversation with an interesting woman who was doing likewise. The Farmer spotted me and later asked, "Do you KNOW who you were talking to?" Nope, she was just a mom like me in my eyes. He informed me that she was a very powerful and very influential woman in Washington.
Butler's? People actually had butlers? Oh yes they did. I read Pamela Harriman's book! Now she was a piece of work.
Suzanne
This is fun stuff and love the way you write, especially the term "throes of etiquette". And I will happily talk about your blog on mine as I had intended to already, I LOVE your blog.
My father did wear a hat, so I pretty much knew "hat" etiquette, and it still bothers me when I see a man eating in a restaurant with his hat on -- especially the ones who are old enough that you KNOW they know better.
I think life was so different back then, and even when I was young in regard to etiquette and attitudes that it is hard to imagine now.
As an example, in 1964 I graduated from high school on a Friday and started work as a secretary the next Monday. My mother had bought me five dresses with matching pumps and purses so that I would be appropriately dressed (at least hats and gloves were no longer worn!). The only men who didn't wear suits and ties in that large insurance company worked in the mailroom -- and even they wore white shirts.
Some of my first secretarial duties for my new boss, Mr. S (I would NEVER have called him by his first name.) were watering and polishing the leaves on the plants in his office, serving coffee to him and his guests, answering every one of his calls and then transferring them to him (unless he had told me to hold them and take a message)and taking long letters down in shorthand and then transcribing them on a manual typewriter, always making multiple copies with carbon paper.
Memorably, Mr. S dictated letters to me on the last day I worked before I got married -- some of which I didn't get transcribed before I left! So, I took the notes with me on my honeymoon (to a lake cottage about 45 minutes out of town), transcribed them in long hand "in my spare time" and then Hubby and I drove back into town one evening and gave them to another secretary who took them to the office and typed them up for Mr. S. I'd love to know what Mr. S was thinking to do that to a young girl just getting married, but I would never have been so presumptious to ask! I wonder what Emily would have said about that!
My biggest pet peeve is when people don't put a napkin in their lap right when they sit down at the table.
I NEED that book, apparently LOL
xo,
rue
Thanks for visiting my blog!
My ring is all better !
Maybe won't put a photo up though..
Playing in mud is not so nice! Making pots is.
Three I was really off...what can I say, I married a Baptist.
Four I'm pretty sure has something to do with the hemline...the gentleman's dress should be full length after six, while the butler's dress should remain tea length so he doesn't trip over it while serving the brandy and cigars.
Five has changed over the years. While a card may still be mailed out when leaving town, the PPC now stands for Please Pick me/us Clean.
Partially correct - number 3 - I knew some of the differences between a ball and dance.
Number 4 - I've never had a butler, but knew the butler and the gentleman of the house never dress alike.
Number 5 - knew a PPC card was some sort of card to be produced upon visiting someone.
I'm guilty of saying the shortened version, "pardon me"; just being lazy.
In short, Manners Count! And Good Manners Count Most of All! People who depend upon tips to help round out their salary know this to be very true.
I agree with Carla; I miss the days when people dressed nicely to go to church, shopping, visiting, etc. It's a sign of disrespect to show up dressed in torn jeans, tee shirt, sneakers, etc. If that's all a person has, that's a different story but when someone shows up shabbily dressed they are announcing they don't care.
If they don't care, why not just stay home?
While I'd love to win this book, I do believe Queenmothermawmaw has the BEST answers; never mind correct! -grin-
BTW, congratulations to the groom and best wishes to the bride.
1. Tip hat to ladies, shake men's hand.
2. Nice to meecha.
3. I got sorta close maybe??? Ball - formal, Dance - informal
4. I didn't know either of them wore dresses? Butler's is knee length and gentleman's is floor length after 6. And off the shoulder w/gloves...
5. some kind of RSVP?
Uh-Oh - I see that someone else got in on the dress thing. I'm too late...
Thanks for visiting my blog. I think Little Rock may be the only Ark. city recognized by blogger. I am on the other side of the state (Blytheville-NE corner), but when I type in my town, it automatically registers me in L.R.! Nice to meet some more Ark. bloggers though. Oh, BTW, I answered "nice to meet you", which is my standard reply to meeting someone! Who knew? laurie
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